Brandon Sanderson’s epic Stormlight Archive fantasy series will continue with Wind and Truth, the concluding volume of the first major arc of this ten-book series. A defining pillar of Sanderson’s “Cosmere” fantasy book universe, this newest installment of The Stormlight Archive promises huge developments for the world of Roshar, the struggles of the Knights Radiant (and friends!), and for the Cosmere at large.
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Chapter 21: Incomplete Truths
First, I dared not tell them this dusty traveler with whom they shared a meal was in fact that very king they had heard of. The second was that I did not explain that very king had abdicated his throne and walked away from his kingdom.
—From The Way of Kings, fourth parable
Shallan and her team—the best she had, without Vathah and Ishnah, who were still in Shadesmar—spent the next few hours planning. Then it was finally time.
Her team of five made their way to an Oathgate outside Urithiru, hiding among a larger group of soldiers being transferred to Narak to reinforce it. She led with outward confidence, though deeper inside she acknowledged she was terrified. Mraize and Iyatil had manipulated her before. They had a nearly supernatural understanding of politics on Roshar—including the politics between gods.
Where other groups had made bids for kingdoms, the Ghostbloods made bids for worlds—or for control of economic forces as big as those worlds. This was what terrified Shallan. Not the things that she worried they’d do. The things she was too ignorant to worry they’d do.
These thoughts haunted her, accompanied by anxietyspren, as light flashed around them and they transferred to Narak—the city at the center of the Shattered Plains. It had been a year and a half since Dalinar’s fateful expedition and the events that had summoned the Everstorm. Since then, Narak had become a fortress. With Stonewards, they’d expanded the Oathgate platform a good ten feet. Then it and each of the central cluster of plateaus had been turned into a defensive bastion lined by Soulcast walls, attended by troops in towers.
A lighteyed captain shouted at them to get moving, seeing Shallan and the other four as just another squad of spearmen. They hiked off the Oathgate platform with the others, entering the new ring of ground around the plateau where people could wait their turn to transfer. Here Shallan and her team broke off, heads up, acting like they belonged. They crossed the bridge to Narak Four, a nearby plateau that had its own towering circular wall.
“Looks like a chouta roll,” Red said from behind her.
“What are you on about?” Gaz said.
“The walls around these plateaus,” he said. “Makes them look like a bunch of chouta rolls. You know, open at the top? Stuffed with meat.”
“And we’re the meat?” Darcira asked, her voice masked by a Lightweaving to sound masculine.
“Sure,” Red said.
“They’re too stocky to look like chouta,” Darcira said. “More like shalebark ridges. Oh! Tree stumps, where the center has rotted out.”
“Or, you know,” Gaz grumbled, “like the warcamps. Where we lived for years?”
“Oh, yeah!” Red said.
“Circular walls,” Darcira said, “soldiers everywhere… Nah, don’t see it.”
“You two are buffoons,” Gaz said. “I should have stayed a storming deserter. At least out in the wilds, everyone was too depressed to make small talk.”
Shallan hushed them as they reached the end of the bridge, where they presented falsified orders to the sergeant and scribe on watch at the gate. Darcira had waved them into existence on a sheet, a perfect replica. Though Shallan, via Adolin, had permission from the Bondsmiths, she wasn’t going to trust anyone she didn’t need to. Anyone here could be in Ghostblood employ.
The sergeant waved Shallan and her group through, and they entered Narak Four: a distinctive plateau covered in ancient buildings once so enveloped in crem that they’d looked like smooth mounds. A little creative application of Shardblades had unearthed the original stone buildings, providing room for barracks and a small marketplace, carefully regulated by Navani and the military.
Shallan and her team made a show—for the sergeant idly watching by the gates—of walking to their assigned barrack. They came out on the other side wearing the faces and clothing of crem scrapers: the easy-to-ignore, lowly workers that kept a place like this clean. As they moved into position, they were joined by Jayn—a Riran woman whom Shallan had recruited to the Unseen Court eight months ago. She’d been sent ahead to watch the Ghostblood hideout.
“They’re continuing to gather, Brightness,” Jayn said softly, also disguised as a crem scraper. “I’ve seen five or six people enter the building over the last half hour.”
Shallan nodded. Reports said someone was at the doorway, using black sand to check everyone who entered. That made Lightweaving tricky, as the sand could reveal uses of Radiant powers.
To maintain their disguises, her team began leveling a patch of road near the hideout with chisels, removing the crem, plants, and lichens that grew on the stone. Gaz used posts with string between to section off their working area, diverting foot traffic, letting them chat without worrying about being overheard.
Shallan took the role of foreman, walking around, checking on the other five as they worked. In reality she watched that hideout, a supposed storehouse of no importance. Two more people arrived, including a shorter uniformed Alethi man she recognized from Hoid’s sketches. The second was a member of the Azish Prime’s retinue—a vizier even, though not one of the very important ones like Noura. Shallan took a Memory of him, so she could add a drawing of the man to their stack.
Mraize had rarely let Shallan meet anyone but him, isolating her from what was proving to be a distressingly large network, including people among most of the major political organizations on Roshar. The best she knew, their primary goal was to find a way to begin shipping Stormlight offworld, but that—though likely a potential source of great riches—seemed too small-scale for Mraize and Iyatil.
The front door of the hideout had a sheltered porch, with a dark shadow just inside. When each new Ghostblood arrived at the door, a short, cloaked figure stepped from the shadows and inspected them. Shallan caught a hint of a painted wooden mask, and the shape of the figure looked female. That confirmed Darcira’s observations: it was either Iyatil or, more likely, the woman among the other two.
The door guard inspected each of the two newcomers by touching their faces to check for discrepancies in their features. Then they held up a jar of black sand.
Shallan huddled with Darcira, Gaz, Red, and Jayn as they labored. They pretended to be working on a particularly stubborn section of ground together while Jeneh kept watch. Their spren had instructions to ride on the insides of clothing to remain hidden.
“All right,” Shallan said. “This is our last chance to back out.”
“This won’t be like infiltrating the Sons of Honor,” Gaz added. “That group was already dying when we put them down. This might be the most dangerous organization on the planet. I… worry we should go to ground, hide from them. Wait out the coming storm. I’m not sure we’re ready.”
“What do the rest of you think?” Shallan asked.
“I think,” Red said, “that nobody ever feels ready for big operations. Storms, you think half those boys on the walls feel ready to fight a war? The question isn’t if we’re ready, but if it needs to be done.”
Gaz grunted. “That’s true, I suppose. Red, you need to stop saying things that are smart. You’ll upend my entire opinion of you.”
Red smiled, continuing to work with his chisel, scraping away crem. He had experience with tools like this, having trained as a craftsman during his youth.
“I think our plan is good,” Darcira said. “I say we move forward.” She was an unusual one, a scientist who had shown talent for Lightweaving and left the ardents to join Shallan. She was the only one in the Court who tended to draw logicspren as often as creationspren.
“I’m worried about how many people are in there,” Jayn said. “Shallan, you will be completely outnumbered. Do we really need to do this?”
“In just over eight days,” Shallan said softly, “Dalinar Kholin will fight the champion of Odium to decide the fate of the world. The Ghostbloods, best we can determine, are the most dangerous secret political force on the planet. So…”
“They’re going to be involved somehow,” Red said. “They’ll have some plan to compromise the contest. I’m in.” His spren hummed from where he rode on the inside of Red’s jacket. Array didn’t say much, and as far as Shallan had been able to tell, he didn’t hum when he tasted lies—he seemed to like alliteration of all things.
“Mraize and Iyatil are accustomed to the luxury of darkness and shadow,” Shallan said. “We need to expose them, naked for the world to see. So long as they have a monopoly on information, they will control us. And if we’re always reacting to them, never attacking, they will beat us.” She paused, some of Mraize’s own words returning to her memory. “Prey can only ever run. It can survive, but it can never win. Not so long as the predator lives.”
“Sure,” Gaz said, “but we could just send the Radiant strike team in. I hate relying on Windrunners for anything other than transportation—and then they still usually find a way to squeeze in a lecture or two. But… we could defer to them this time, Shallan.”
“We will use them,” Shallan said. “But Gaz, if we bring in soldiers first, then my gut says Mraize and Iyatil will find a way to escape. Even if they don’t, they’ll never talk. We could throw them in prison for a decade, and those two would keep their silence. I need to know what they’re planning. I need to get into that meeting.”
She’d learned some of what she hungered for, yes. Kelek, and her own recovered memories, gave her pieces—but there was so much more. Worlds’ worth. She thirsted for the chance to at least once hear them talking freely.
Beyond that… they were planning something. Why was that woman spying on Dalinar? Why did they want Ba-Ado-Mishram? Would bursting in with swords out and powers ablaze stop their plans? Maybe. Maybe not. It depended on what pieces were already in motion.
“Storm it,” Gaz said. “You’re right. I’m in.”
Gaz and Red were among her oldest friends, and among their most experienced Lightweavers. She knew Gaz well enough to tell his objections were real—he was concerned about this mission. But he also was objecting in part so that the concerns could be voiced, then overcome.
“I’m in too,” Jayn said. “Though the real danger is to you, Brightness.”
“I can handle it,” Radiant said. “We are a go, then. Hopefully they haven’t started discussing anything important.”
Her team had talked about this. The Ghostbloods couldn’t bring everyone over through the Oathgates at once. A group would draw too much attention, and since the attendees were still trickling in, she hoped Mraize was still waiting.
Darcira covertly checked her clock—which, like many scholars, she wore on one of Navani’s arm bracer fabrials. “The next Oathgate transfer is a bit over a half hour from now, and our surveillance spotted a few important members of the Ghostbloods—at least ones that Wit thought were important—hanging out in the grand entryway of Urithiru, as if waiting their turn. They’re likely to be in that next batch, which gives us just enough time to set up phase two.”
“Let’s work for a few minutes longer,” Gaz suggested. “Else it’s suspicious we set up here.”
Shallan nodded in agreement, and started to actually scrape. It was surprisingly hard work—but she did get a particularly defiant rockbud free, forcing her chisel underneath and finally prying it loose. A low rain had started to mist the air, though after the highstorm last night, the next wouldn’t be due for a few days. Weather had been odd since the coming of the Everstorm, and rain like this was more common.
Pattern hummed softly from within her jacket, though she couldn’t tell why. This next part would be difficult. She’d never heard of that strange black sand before their planning meeting earlier, but apparently it had been used to spot hidden spren toward the end of Urithiru’s occupation.
Whether the sand was in jars with guards, or sprinkled along the inside of windowsills, it would change color if any intelligent spren came near. Lesser spren apparently weren’t noticeable, but Cryptics absolutely would be. Worse, it revealed Lightweavings.
Shallan wasn’t terribly surprised—she’d seen Wit use something similar once, and had always wondered at the mechanics. Unfortunately, it meant she had to do the hardest part without her powers or her spren.
“Time to move, then,” Shallan said, standing. “Let’s go.”
* * *
Sigzil did his best to pretend he was Kaladin.
He stood tall during the long strategy meeting that followed the initial discussion of the monarchs, and he tried to act like he understood more than he did. Kaladin was always so sure of himself. He always knew the next step to take.
Sigzil couldn’t do that, but he could pretend enough to keep the anxietyspren away. Act like he belonged among monarchs, generals, and the storming Prime Aqasix of the Azish Empire.
Sigzil’s mother would laugh at him; he read the amusement in her letters. Him? A military man? Her studious little boy, so delicate and refined? Even in Azir, he’d been made fun of for his persnickety ways. Yet here he was, shoulder to shoulder with a group of generals.
“Someone,” he whispered to himself, “is going to eventually discover I’m a fraud, won’t they?”
“You’re not a fraud,” Vienta, his spren, whispered to him—remaining invisible, as she often did.
“I’m a failed scholar, a mediocre Worldsinger, and a persnickety perfectionist who drives the others up the wall. I…”
“Did you survive Bridge Four?”
“Yes,” he whispered. “Through pain and storm, I survived.”
“Then you can survive this.”
“But to lead them?” he asked.
“What do you think,” she said softly, “was the result of that pain and fire? You are a leader now, Sigzil. You are a hero. Live that truth.”
As the meeting moved toward a break, Sigzil found himself standing with Kmakl, the Thaylen prince consort, at the edge of the large glowing map.
“What I don’t get,” Kmakl was saying to Ka, the Windrunner scribe, “is where their troops came from.”
Across the room, Brightlord Dalinar, Brightness Navani, Queen Jasnah, and Queen Fen retreated to a smaller chamber to discuss something sensitive. The Azish Prime had left a short time before, to return to his city. He wasn’t generally involved in detailed battle plans.
“Their troops get reborn,” Ka said, poring over the scout reports. She made notations with her silver pen, one of the most interesting uses of a Shardblade among the Windrunners to date. It had a cartridge to fill with ink and everything. She chose to wear a blue havah embroidered with the Bridge Four symbol on the shoulder, one of the new uniforms Kaladin had authorized.
There was an Azish-inspired one as well, which Sigzil could have worn. Their most recent recruits were from all across Roshar, and Sigzil himself had made the point that the Windrunners shouldn’t be perceived as an Alethi group. So why didn’t he wear that instead of the uniform he’d been given all those months ago? Was it because of the tattoo on his forehead?
Bridge Four was the only place I ever felt like a person rather than an accident, he thought. But without Kaladin, Rock, Teft, Moash… was it really Bridge Four anymore? All he wanted was to be back at that fire, sitting with his friends and listening to Rock gently make fun of him for counting the chunks of meat in bowls of stew to make sure everyone was getting proper nutrition.
“Brightlord?” Kmakl asked him. “Is everything all right?”
“Yes,” Sigzil said, clasping his hands behind his back, forcing his attention onto the logistics. “You were saying they have too many troops? I think Ka is correct. Their Fused can be reborn; they’ll always have more troops than we do.”
“True, true,” Kmakl said. “But with the number of Fused marching on the Shattered Plains, those troop transports coming for Thaylen City will be filled with ordinary singers. They’ll be thrown at our battle lines like bait to be caught in our nets. Poor souls. They have to be running out of frontline soldiers, don’t they?”
“Apparently not,” Ka said. “How do we distribute our Windrunners? Sigzil?”
“Thaylen City will need at least one squad, maybe an entire company,” Sigzil said. “The enemy will probably move some Skybreakers to the Shattered Plains, now that the blockade is broken, but an air force will guard those troop transports during the crossing. So we should be ready to match them once they reach Thaylen City, to not cede air superiority.”
He wished they had more variety to their Radiant forces. Yes, they had Windrunners and Edgedancers aplenty, and a growing force of Stonewards and Lightweavers. The other orders were largely empty though.
“The enemy will have a difficult landing at my homeland,” Kmakl said. “That’s when they’ll be most vulnerable. We’ll burn the docks and lay hull-rippers in the shallows. When they land, we go back to the walls.”
“They smashed those open with thunderclasts last time,” Ka noted. “But I have an idea. We could assign our Windrunners to another battlefield until the enemy arrives at yours—forcing them to waste Skybreakers guarding their ships for days.”
“A clever idea,” Kmakl said. “With Oathgates at both the Shattered Plains and Thaylen City, we can transfer troops between battlefields as necessary.” He glanced up, toward where the Azish contingent had been earlier.
Considering, perhaps, Sigzil thought, what the Mink said. About Azimir being a tougher defense than it looked. It would be the only one of the three unable to receive support from the other battlefields, as its Oathgate would soon cease functioning. At least they’d have an entire army arriving to help in a few days.
Sigzil had to worry about stretching his Windrunners too thin. The battle at the Shattered Plains was going to be a strange one, full of so many Fused. And somehow he had to lead that defense.
“We can use the Oathgates,” Ka noted, “but we will want to be very careful with them. We’ve had one too many instances of ‘Wait, how’d these pesky enemy forces get here in the squishy part of my rear lines?’ I think we should assign some people to keep talking to each Oathgate spren, to hopefully prevent any other defections. What do you think, Sigzil?”
What did he think? He glanced at her, and heard his spren’s words echoing in his mind.
Live that truth.
Storm him, it was time to stop being unsure of himself, wasn’t it? It was time to stop fidgeting. He’d been put in command.
He needed to act like it.
“I think you’re right,” he said. “And also… Ka, I have an idea about the defense of Narak. Where I’m in command. It’s a strange one, but I think it might work.”
“Excellent,” Ka said. “If so, we should run it past the Mink.”
Kmakl scanned the room. “I have some questions to ask him too. But… has anyone seen him?”
Storms. The little man had vanished yet again.
* * *
Jasnah—with Dalinar, Navani, and Fen—entered a room full of plants and bobbing lifespren.
It had once been an ordinary room, but upon the Sibling’s awakening, it had transformed. The stone of the ceiling looked transparent, replicating the sun—making you feel like you were standing beneath a skylight. But that sun didn’t move, and didn’t match the true position outside.
Fragments of glowing white light embedded in the stone made the walls and ceiling sparkle, and plants had begun to sprout from the stonework—vines and rockbuds, moss and even grass in patches. All growing with incredible speed.
“I heard of this place long ago,” Ivory said, his voice soft but audible from where he—shrunken to tiny size—rode on her earring. “The tower likes to experiment with what a room should be, building strange landscapes. I thought the stories fancies.”
“This is growing into something of a mess,” Dalinar said from the center of the room, where vines were curling around his legs. “Can we ask the Sibling to tone it down?”
“They’d rather not,” Navani said.
The room vibrated, and a quiet voice echoed from the air vents near the floor. “It is a room for my sister, should she visit. A room for the Nightwatcher.”
“Very well,” Dalinar said, with his firmest voice. His you really should listen to me and do as I say, but I’ll pretend you doing otherwise doesn’t bother me voice. “We appreciate your willingness to make the tower function.”
“I did not have much choice in the matter,” the Sibling said. “But I did have some. So you are welcome.”
Queen Fen took a chair from those piled near some tables on the far side, pulling it free of the foliage. They’d used this smaller chamber off the meeting room for storage. Jasnah stepped softly, trying to imagine the Nightwatcher visiting, enjoying the abundance of life. Had it ever happened? The Sibling and the tower had shut down just before the Recreance, over two thousand years ago.
“When was the Nightwatcher created?” Jasnah whispered to Ivory. “We call her the Old Magic, but how long has she been around? When did Cultivation form her?”
Before Ivory could answer, a voice whispered back from a nearby air vent. “The Nightwatcher came from the Night, as the Stormfather came from the Wind. Though, when I was young, the Wind was different. So very different.”
“When were you created, Sibling?” Jasnah asked.
“Some six thousand years ago, when the Stones wanted a legacy in the form of a child of Honor and Cultivation. Back when Bondsmiths bonded not to spren, but to the ancient forces, left by gods.”
“And the Stormfather?”
“Soon before me.”
“That’s inaccurate though,” Jasnah said. “Dalinar speaks of the Stormfather having existed when people first came to Roshar, seven thousand years ago. The Stormfather remembers that event, and detailed the timing.”
“It has been confusing,” the Sibling said, “to learn of all that has happened while I slept. I knew the Stormfather when he was young. I, formed from the Stone, which was the sibling of Wind and Night. The Night left. Few loved her, or even spoke of her, and it seems Mother replaced her with a being of some of the same essence. A new creature, unconnected to anyone’s perception.
“Now, the Stormfather has changed, and the Nightwatcher has not spoken to me as she used to. My siblings are no longer as I remember. I hate that.”
Something about those timelines itched at Jasnah. Something that made her want to gather the other Veristitalians and set them to work, searching for primary sources. First, though, her uncle had something he wanted to say. She and Navani turned to Dalinar, in the center of the room, who had his eyes closed. It looked as if he were hovering beneath a sea of lights, grass rippling around his feet.
“Uncle?” Jasnah asked.
“I am not ready,” he said, opening his eyes, “to fight Odium.”
“I don’t know what preparation we can make, given the deadline,” Navani said. “A deadline you agreed to.”
“Yes. I did.” He seized a chair from a stack beside some tables draped in tablecloths, the whole pile shifting as he jerked it free, and Jasnah heard a distinctive eep from them. They weren’t alone.
Of course they weren’t. That girl seemed able to wiggle in anywhere. Jasnah glanced into Shadesmar, and saw Lift there—manifesting as a glowing light like a candle’s flame. Alongside someone else. Curious.
“Even when I agreed to the contract,” Dalinar said, setting the chair down for Navani, then fetching another, “I was uncertain, but the chance was too valuable to pass up. Now that I’ve seen one of my mistakes—not preventing this assault—I fear there are more, regardless of what Wit says.”
“What is it I say?” Wit said, slipping into the room, carrying snacks. That was why he’d sneaked off, delaying them? Really? He handed her a plate of fruit. “I hope whatever it is that you said that I said, it was either nasty or clever. Or both. I honestly prefer both.”
“I am worried Odium will outmaneuver me,” Dalinar replied. He glanced at Jasnah and nodded toward the seats, with a question in his eyes. She nodded back, so he fetched her one.
Curious, how he’d changed. She’d read of times when he wouldn’t have worried about anyone else. She’d known him throughout her adulthood as the man who would take care of people even when they didn’t want it. Now, for the first time she could remember, he asked if she wanted his help. Because he knew that sometimes she disliked it when people did things for her that she would rather have done for herself.
She took her seat. Fen pulled over her chair, and Wit placed a small table and arranged food on it in an artistic way, because of course he did. Jasnah realized, absently, that she was hungry. They’d all likely forgotten breakfast in the chaos.
Once in a while, it was nice to have someone take care of you. She didn’t blame others for getting confused about what she wanted; she regularly confused herself. So today, she enjoyed the plate of fruit.
Wit brought over a chair and spun it around the wrong way before settling down among them. When in public, he acted the proper Wit, standing behind her chair, deferring to her. In a setting like this… well, whatever he was, it was above a queen or a highprince. He didn’t need to say it: he could sit among them. They all knew it by now, including Fen, who looked at him the way one might at an eel that could strike at any moment.
“You are wise to be worried,” Wit said to Dalinar. “I am troubled by this new Odium. The power will remember me and hate me, no matter who is at the helm—but the new Vessel stole several of my memories, then let me assume that I’d bested them. This tells us a little of their personality. Not gloating, though the power would probably have enjoyed that.”
“The power… can think?” Jasnah asked.
“Yes,” Wit said. “Ask your spren what happens if fragments of a god are left to their own devices for too long. They stand up, start walking about, and start riding around in people’s earrings. They start caring.
“Each ‘god’ is a slice of a greater entity killed some ten thousand years ago, its power divided. Those fragments have Identities, Intents. Honor: the instinct to make bonds and keep them. Odium: a god’s divine wrath, uncoupled from essential moderating factors like mercy and love.”
“I met another one earlier,” Dalinar said. “On my way up here: Cultivation appeared to me in the form of a woman.”
Jasnah came alert, palafruit halfway to her mouth. “Cultivation spoke to you?” she said. “That’s why you called me in here?”
“I believe so,” Dalinar said. “She looked the same. Sounded the same. Felt the same. It could be a trick of some sort, I admit, but… there was something about the meeting…”
“And she said…” Wit prodded.
“She told me I needed to seek the Spiritual Realm,” Dalinar said. “That I didn’t need to expand my powers as a Bondsmith so much as I needed to expand my understanding, particularly of the past. I cannot travel through time, but I can travel the visions. I can see how the Heralds and Radiants dealt with Odium before. She implied I’ve been on this path for years without realizing it, and if I learn correctly, I will know how to defeat Odium.”
Storms. Jasnah thought of the wonder of being able to travel to other times. She’d dedicated her whole life to studying the past as a way to understand the future. Her efforts, though successful at times, had always been uncertain. Akin to searching shadows for shapes to interpret.
Through Dalinar’s visions, she could see what had made those shapes. It wasn’t actually traveling to the past, but the possibilities offered… “Can you visit any other times though? I thought the visions were more rigid than that.”
“I thought so too,” Dalinar said. “But recently I’ve found the Stormfather’s words about them to be full of… well, not contradictions. Incomplete truths. Cultivation implied there was much more to see and learn.”
“Everything exists in three realms,” Wit said. “Physical, where we live now. Shadesmar, the Cognitive Realm, where minds project their impressions. Finally, the Spiritual Realm. The realm of our souls, our links to our past and to other people.
“The Spiritual Realm is a dangerous, confusing place. Every event in the past still echoes in there, yes, just as the scars upon the body are a record of past wounds. However, when you travel the visions with the Stormfather, Dalinar, you do so in a very carefully prescribed way. To deviate from that course risks getting lost in a place with no directions, no lifelines. A place where even I, as one of the ancients, tread cautiously.”
“Would it really be helpful?” Navani asked. “Dalinar, didn’t the Stormfather imply that the visions can’t show you anything he doesn’t know? So what could you learn?”
“It does seem like a risk,” Fen added. “For something so nebulous.”
“There… is more,” Dalinar said, his hands clasped before him. “Something else that Cultivation said. What happened to Honor, Wit? What truly happened at his death?”
“I don’t know,” Wit admitted, his voice soft, arms crossed before him on the back of his chair. “I was off-planet for the event, to my eternal shame. Other matters drew my attention, and I let the centuries slip away from me. He was erratic when I left. When I returned…” He shrugged. “Gone. The Radiants broken. The world in turmoil following the Recreance. I’ve been trying to catch up ever since.”
“And… do you know the location of his power?” Dalinar asked.
Wit didn’t respond immediately. He took a deep breath and cocked a smile at the corner of his lips. “So. She nudged you in that direction, did she?”
“She did,” Dalinar said. “If we are to fight a god, would it not be best to have one on our side?”
Wait, Jasnah thought. What is he saying?
“I have yet to know a person,” Wit said, “who took up one of those Shards and didn’t regret it, my friend.”
“Same as any other burden of responsibility.”
“Yes,” Wit said, “but orders of magnitude worse.” He looked around the room, and Jasnah noted Fen watching with wide eyes. Not questioning, but obviously out of her league.
They were talking about Dalinar Ascending to the Shard of Honor. Storms.
“That seems a big leap to make,” Jasnah said. “Too big a leap.”
“I can think of nothing else to try,” Dalinar whispered.
“What if we renegotiated the contract?” Jasnah said.
They all looked at her.
“If there is a new Odium,” she said, “he might agree to different terms. Perhaps he will stop the war entirely if we give him accommodations.” She didn’t look at Wit. “What if we let him leave?”
“Jasnah,” Wit said, pained. “We can’t unleash him upon the cosmere.”
“We have to at least consider every option,” Jasnah said. “You said that the other worlds, and the beings that rule them, are content to leave Odium to us. They offer no help or succor, and sometimes you have to think about yourself first. What if we renegotiated?”
“No,” Dalinar said softly. “He took advantage of us once—and he’d only renegotiate if it served him better. He would do so only to take further advantage. I think we need to explore options outside the contract—options like Honor’s power.”
They sat quietly at that, and Jasnah had to admit that negotiating the first time hadn’t worked spectacularly. She looked to Wit, who slumped, offended, as he met her eyes. Keeping Odium from destroying more worlds was one of his primary goals.
“Peace,” she said, resting a hand on his arm. “I’m only asking questions, as I must.”
“I understand,” he said, nodding. And he did seem to. “And what is put upon all of you is unfair. You have every right to be annoyed at the other Shards. I certainly am. Dalinar, you have a good point in what you’re contemplating.”
Dalinar nodded. “I worry that I need something far, far greater than what this contest under any terms can offer. If you bring an army of six men against an army of tens of thousands, you’ll lose. That’s what I’m doing, in facing Odium. What if there’s a better way? What if there’s a way to fight Odium? Defeat, destroy, exile him. Using the power of a god.”
Jasnah shivered, and forced herself to consider it. She had known, even when no one else wanted to acknowledge it, that there was nothing watching or protecting them. All the aphorisms, rituals, and writings were for the comfort of the people at best—or the control of them at worst. She’d accepted this, though at times she had dearly wished for that comfort.
Recently, in talking with Wit, she’d discovered the extent to which she’d been right. There was something up there, it just wasn’t God. It was a group of ordinary people. She didn’t know what terrified her more. The idea of some powerful, all-knowing deity that controlled everything—destroying her free will, yet for some reason still leaving the entire world in so much pain. Or the knowledge that there were beings who ruled the cosmere with immense power—but they had all the foibles, flaws, and limited morality of anyone else.
After contemplation, giving Dalinar’s idea due thought, she still found herself against it. Kings were bad enough. This was far worse.
“Dalinar,” she said, “I don’t feel comfortable with this line of reasoning.”
“Neither do I,” he said. “Storms, Jasnah, neither do I. But we face a being of immense strength and intelligence. When I get to that contest in eight days, they are going to outmaneuver me. I’m increasingly certain it will happen.”
“So you’re saying the only way to win,” Fen said, “is to face them as an equal? With the power of Honor?”
“Do you know, Wit?” Dalinar asked. “What happens to the power of a god when they die?”
“It’s different on each world,” Wit said. “On one it was all around, and we didn’t realize it. In another, the god’s power was stuffed in a metaphorical closet—packed into Shadesmar, left to rot. Here, if it wasn’t Splintered after all, then it’s in the Spiritual Realm. I think it might be the very substance of your visions, which behave so interestingly.”
“Cultivation said the same,” Dalinar said. “That if I travel the Spiritual Realm, it will be all around me.”
“But… isn’t it all around us already?” Navani asked. “In the spren, the Stormlight, the power of the Radiants?”
“Yes and no,” Wit said. “This is complicated. A Shard—a god—suffuses everything. Every axon on the world is, in some way, Connected to it. But the Spiritual Realm must hold a core of what Honor used to be. A well of energy, you might say. If you were to Connect to it in the right way, you would ascend to Honor’s position. Then all the ambient power of the world would be part of you. You’d need to find a way to persuade the power to accept you.”
“And if I did want to do that…” Dalinar said.
Wit met his eyes. “Then yes, the Spiritual Realm is where you’d start.” Uncharacteristically subdued, he rested his head on his folded arms. “Navani, did the Sibling notice the visit of a god to their tower?”
Navani looked upward for a moment, then shook her head. “The Sibling says, however, that their mother is… quiet. Sneaky.”
“Her kind tend to be,” Wit mumbled, “for all their enormous size. Tricky lizards who hide where you least expect them. Like someone else I know.” He took up an empty bowl, then threw it across the room toward the stacked tables. It hit the tablecloth covering one and smacked into something, which yelped.
Dalinar stood and spun, toppling his chair, alert, with yellow shockspren breaking around him. A fraction of a second later, he realized who it was. “Lift?” he said. “Again?”
The head of a teenage girl popped out, with round features and long, straight dark hair spilling around her face. A second head emerged beside hers, much older, with a grey mustache.
“Dieno?” Dalinar said, righting his chair and sitting back down.
The Mink seemed embarrassed to have been caught—though as usual Lift didn’t care. She scampered forward and helped herself to the snacks. The Mink stood up and straightened his clothing.
“You could have just asked instead of spying,” Dalinar said. “How did you get in, anyway?”
“Vents,” the Mink said. “And pardon, Blackthorn, the fatal problem with asking is that people can, and do, say no.”
“Did you realize,” Lift said around a mouthful of fruit, “it’s easier to get through a hole if you break your shoulder?”
“Dislocate, child,” the Mink said. “Dislocate your shoulder.”
She shrugged. Jasnah watched the two, considering them. Lift had significant potential as a spy, and Jasnah had contemplated encouraging her in that direction. The Mink though… he was too dangerous. He acted small, unassuming, but he was not loyal to her family, and she did not blame him. In his place, she wouldn’t be either.
“I’ll admit,” the Mink said, stepping up to them, “I didn’t anticipate a discussion of deification. It is… puelo arandan? The Alethi word is…”
“Blasphemous,” Jasnah said.
“Ah, yes,” the Mink said. “That.”
“What did you expect to hear?” Jasnah asked, toying with a small green palafruit but not biting into it.
“A discussion of whether or not to assault Alethkar,” the Mink said, shrugging.
“Alethkar?” Navani said. “Why? If we win, we get it back—and your homeland as well.”
“If you lose?” the Mink asked, looking to Dalinar.
“They keep both kingdoms,” Dalinar said.
“If they control them,” the Mink said. “The contract loophole works both ways, no?”
Wit cocked his head. “I suppose… yes. If we were to assault and reclaim Alethkar before the deadline it would be ours, regardless of the outcome of the contest.”
“When you all scuttled off,” the Mink said, “I assumed you’d seen this, and didn’t want anyone else to get their hopes up as you discussed.”
Reclaim Alethkar? She could help her people become a nation again, not a group of refugees. Jasnah sat up straight and looked to Dalinar, who had hunched forward. He met her eyes, and she saw the truth in them. Even before her own mind—scrambling to work out the logistics—did.
It was impossible.
Kholinar was in the very heart of Alethkar—fortified, home to thousands of Fused and multiple Unmade. They’d need to somehow deliver enough troops to accomplish the assault, pulling them away from every other fortified position—and the distances involved…
The enemy’s assaults were in places it could reach quickly: Thaylenah by ship, Azimir through Shadesmar, and the Shattered Plains via a smaller number of Fused arriving by air. Reaching Alethkar on such short notice would be…
Well, it simply couldn’t be done. Not unless they pulled every Windrunner away, and risked everything on this one gamble.
“The logistics of it are impossible, I’m afraid,” Dalinar said. “Kholinar is too far away and too well fortified.”
“And Herdaz?” the Mink asked. “Barely any Fused. Spy reports say they’ve moved most of their military away, following the collapse of my rebellion.” He stepped closer to Dalinar. “I could reclaim it.”
“We’re going to reclaim it,” Dalinar said. “When I win the contest.”
“Pardon, gancho,” the Mink said, “but I just overheard your reservations about the likelihood of that victory. Even if you were confident, I should not like to trust our freedom to another man’s sword. No matter how comically large said sword may be.” He stepped closer, holding something. A tattered remnant of a banner, one Jasnah knew he kept in his pocket. “You are to be commended for remembering Herdaz in your contract, Blackthorn. I no longer think you will forget us, as the Alethi so often have.
“But you gave me a promise. I should like it fulfilled. First Alethkar, then Herdaz. If you cannot send armies for your homeland, then our promise comes due. I would like to try, and I should like you to keep your oath to me. Troops. Support.”
“Eight days?” Navani asked. “You want us to deliver troops to a nation hundreds of miles away in eight days?”
“The Fourth Bridge,” the Mink said. “Your flying machine—”
“Would take weeks to travel that distance,” Navani said.
“Windrunners, then,” the Mink said. “They can get a person across the continent in under a day.”
“But an entire army?” Navani said.
“We’d need a few hundred at most,” the Mink said. “The members of my personal army, which we have rescued. If you drop us at the border on the western side, we will assault the capital a little inland, reclaiming my homeland.” He placed the tattered remnant before Dalinar on the food table. “Your oath, Blackthorn.”
He stared at it. Damnation. He was going to say yes.
“Dalinar,” Jasnah said. “Look at me.”
He turned from the banner, meeting her eyes.
“Even an assault force of two hundred would require some fifty Windrunners. Windrunners we need to protect what we have. There are barely three hundred! You can’t send so many of them on a quest like this. That would make you—no offense, General Dieno—of the ten fools!”
“I swore an oath, Jasnah,” Dalinar said.
“But—”
“What are we, if we don’t have our word?” Dalinar said. “Dieno. We could use your knowledge in the upcoming battles. Are you certain you must leave us?”
“Yes,” he said. “I won the campaign in Emul for you. Now prove you’re no longer the man who burned my lands in your youth, Dalinar. Keep your word.”
Dalinar nodded. “I will set fifty Windrunners to the task. Go, with my blessing.”
The Mink took back his banner, held it in a fist, then gripped Dalinar’s shoulder in thanks. He rushed out—not looking at Jasnah as he did. Damnation. She liked the man Dalinar had become over the years since they had made a connection reading The Way of Kings after her father’s death. But this version of him could be storming inconvenient at times. She took deep breaths to banish the angerspren at her feet.
“This is right, Jasnah,” Dalinar said, settling in his seat. “We must always do what is right. Those Windrunners will return before the deadline and join the battle. In the meantime, we’ve kept our oath.”
“What is right,” she said, “is not so easy as swearing an oath, Uncle. It’s about what brings the greatest good to the most people—and sometimes that requires making difficult decisions.”
“What makes you think,” he said, “that wasn’t a difficult decision?”
They continued to lock gazes, Jasnah’s will against his, until a slurping sound distracted her and she turned to find Lift standing next to her, watching the two of them like it was some puppet show, a dozen palafruit pits at her feet and another wiggling in her mouth. Storms above… how did that girl manage to pack down so much so quickly? And be so frighteningly skinny at the same time?
“So…” Lift said. “What you were sayin’ earlier. Gonna become a god, eh, Dalinar? Deevy. Real deevy. When you do it, can I put in some requests? I kinda hate how toes feel. You know, whenever I remember I have them, and start thinkin’ about them. Can you fix that? Also, make porridge taste like meat and vice versa.”
“Wait,” Fen said. “What?”
“Porridge. Should taste like meat.”
“Why?”
“It’s all slimy and gross. Meat, it comes out of a body. It should be slimy and gross. Innards and blood and guts and stuff. Meat should taste like porridge.” She spat out the last pit, and Jasnah noticed that remarkably, all the snacks Wit had brought were gone. “So, you know, fix that. Also, war and death and stuff. Actually, there are a whole lotsa things the Almighty should fix and hasn’t. Wonder if he gets distracted by all the prayers.”
“The fact that he’s dead,” Navani said dryly, “might be the most distracting part.”
Dalinar suddenly sat up in his seat. Then stood again, looking skyward.
“The Stormfather,” Ivory whispered in Jasnah’s ear. “I feel him near.”
“What?” Fen asked.
“The Stormfather has overheard our conversation,” Dalinar said. “And he’s not happy. I might… need a few minutes.”

Chapter 22: Looking for a Third Option
After we parted with affection the next day, I watched their cart roll into the distance, pulled by the father with two children riding in the rear, the mother striding with a pack on her back. Dust blew with them, for dust goes where it wishes, ignoring all borders.
—From The Way of Kings, fourth parable
Kaladin had entered a world frozen in time.
The first part of Shinovar—on the slope below the pass—was forested. He walked, silent, with Syl. Passing trees that didn’t so much as quiver. Vines that let him step on them. Grass that lay like corpses.
Yet it didn’t feel dead. It was vibrant, green. But docile. Kaladin crouched down to touch a clump of grass, which trustingly let him. He stood and ran his hands along a branch, which didn’t tremble. He tapped several of the diamond leaves, each thick with water.
It all seemed… frozen. Like he had access to some strange Surge that let him freeze a moment and wander around in it. He felt he could turn back and it would all burst into motion, withdrawing from him in an instant, like lounging troops snapping to attention when Dalinar entered the room.
There were also no lifespren, despite the many plants. What a bizarre place. Bizarre and somehow… wonderful?
He should be unnerved. A land where the plants weren’t afraid of you? Where storms didn’t blow? Where you walked on soil springy beneath the foot, which made a dull thump when you stomped instead of a proper scrape or soft smack.
He found it oddly peaceful. Comforting. Did a deep part of him know humans had once lived on a world full of these plants? Or perhaps… perhaps they weren’t timid or stupid. Perhaps these plants were brave. At the very least, they had never known the tyranny of the storm—and so had never been forced to hide. He found beauty in that.
It helped that Syl was delighted by the place.
She zipped from tree to reed, to vine, to grass, to bush—a ribbon of light, twirling and twisting while she laughed. Anytime she was a ribbon, she shrank back to her tiny size, but she shimmered with a variety of colors.
Szeth moved up alongside Kaladin as they walked, preserving their Stormlight. The next highstorm was days away, and Kaladin didn’t trust Szeth’s promises that the spheres would recharge as usual in Shinovar. After all, he admitted that during his youth, they’d almost never used them—instead relying on dangerous things like candles.
Why in the world hadn’t Shinovar burned down? So many plants would surely provide tinder. Kaladin’s people used candles only during the Weeping.
Syl zipped past, doing a series of loops before going to streak through some of the tinkling leaves. The trees here were bone white with knots of dark brown, and Szeth had seemed amused when Kaladin asked how many trees in his land were strange colors. Most, it appeared, were the ordinary brown and green.
“I’d have thought,” Szeth said as Syl zipped past in the other direction, “that she would find this place dull. Wouldn’t it be less fun to inspect plants that do not respond?”
“Syl loves novelty,” Kaladin said. “And she’s probably having all kinds of fun with plants that are too slow to dodge her pranks.”
“Curious,” Szeth said. “Here, we don’t ascribe to plants volition, or thoughts, or intentions as is common to your speech. I’m only now remembering how odd it was to go east and hear people speaking of plants as if they were animate objects with feelings.”
As an inanimate object with feelings, the sword said from Szeth’s back, I think I should be offended.
“No offense was implied, sword-nimi,” Szeth said.
Oh, good! I won’t kill you then. Ha ha.
Both of them froze, listening to the sword chuckle to itself. Finally they started forward again, along a path through the forest. It wasn’t too overgrown, fortunately. Kaladin tried to imagine how hard it would be to get through here if the plants grew all together and refused to move when prodded.
So far, there hadn’t been much of a chance to talk to Szeth, what with the flying. Or perhaps Kaladin merely told himself that to delay the awkwardness. What was the best way to start a conversation? “Hey, sorry to hear that you’re crazy” didn’t seem appropriate.
Instead he tried, “Dalinar says you’ve had a rough time lately.”
“I wouldn’t know,” Szeth replied.
“What do you mean by that?”
“I do not consider a time ‘rough’ or ‘not rough.’ I simply do as my master commands.”
“And… you don’t wish it were another way?”
Szeth eyed him. Kaladin approached a tree branch hanging low over the path, then rapped it with his hand, feeling foolish when it didn’t pull back. He ducked underneath.
“I am here,” Szeth said, “because this is the next step in my progress as a Skybreaker. My people, and my land, need me.”
“So you’re making a choice,” Kaladin said. “Not just doing as commanded. That seems good.”
“I was commanded to find a quest of relevance,” Szeth said, “and this presented itself.” He followed Kaladin under the branch, his shorter stature meaning he didn’t need to duck nearly as far. He moved on ahead faster, as if finished with the conversation.
Storming man. Kaladin caught up. “So, do you want to talk about it?”
“It?”
“Life.” Storms, shouldn’t this be easier? “Dalinar says that things you’ve done have left you scarred. Not only physically, but mentally.”
“Scars exist,” Szeth said. “They are permanent once you bear them. So you endure. Not only physically, but mentally.”
“What if they aren’t permanent?” Kaladin said. “Stormlight can heal physical scars. What if mental scars can heal too? If not remove them, then make them more limber, easier to bear—”
“That is irrelevant,” Szeth said. “I do not need to be healed, as I do not deserve anything of the sort. I have killed, and I bear the weight of those killings. To wish otherwise would be to minimize the damage I have done—an insult to those who whisper at me from the shadows, calling for my soul to burn in recompense for the blood I’ve spilled.”
Storms. “Szeth,” Kaladin said, “you can’t live like that.”
“I exist. I do what is needed. Eventually, I will no longer exist. That is enough.”
“But—”
“I will not speak of this further,” Szeth said, eyes forward. “I know what Dalinar intends you to do with me, as I am not deaf. It is not needed.”
“He wants you to listen to me though.”
“All he asked of me was to bring you,” Szeth said. “Therefore, you are here. You. The one who nearly killed me. Here. In my land, on my quest.” Szeth looked at him in the overcast forest, those oddly shaped eyes of his seeming at home in dimmer light.
“I trust Dalinar because I must,” Szeth continued. “So I am not allowed to resent you. Nevertheless, do not assume I will endure you trying to ‘save’ me, Kaladin Stormblessed. Not all beneath your judging gaze are in need of your protection. Keep your attention on finding the Herald.”
Szeth turned and continued on, purposeful.
Syl landed beside Kaladin and whistled softly, growing to full size. “Well, he’s something,” she whispered.
Kaladin gritted his teeth and stalked forward, and Syl walked alongside—not flying, instead imitating his posture. She seemed to think he should try talking to Szeth more, but storms, Kaladin understood the frustration of someone trying to force you to feel better. The sole person who’d ever managed it had been Adolin—and he had done so without pandering or trying to cheer Kaladin up. Somehow. Maybe Adolin should have come on this mission instead. Storming man.
Regardless, Kaladin needed another tactic. He refused to manipulate Szeth into accepting help.
“All right then,” Kaladin said, joining Szeth again. “Dalinar wants me to recruit Ishar the Herald. Any ideas on that?”
“It is a wise mission, given by a wise man,” Szeth said. “But we do not know where Ishar, or Ishu-son-God as we know him, is hiding. Plus, there is something dangerous in this land. My mission here involves a… cleansing and retribution owed to the people of Shinovar.”
“Can you tell me what you mean by that?”
“One of the Unmade is here,” Szeth said. “Awakened years before you became a Radiant, before the first oaths were sworn. My people have embraced it for some reason, and welcomed in its darkness and its manipulations.”
“How can you be sure it’s an Unmade?” Kaladin said. “It took Dalinar ages to recognize the Thrill as an Unmade.”
“Because,” Szeth said, “before my exile, I met it.” He paused for an instant. “It began during my youth. With… a rock.”
* * *
The others left, allowing Dalinar to confront the Stormfather alone in that garden room.
He had grown accustomed to having the Stormfather in the back of his mind. Like a thought; the kind of nagging, persistent one that hovered at the perimeter of your consciousness. The awful feeling as you waited for a battle report, already seeing that your side was faring poorly.
Dalinar wished that his metaphor for the sensation weren’t so negative, that his relationship with his spren was more like others’. Some of that was Dalinar’s fault, because of events like when he’d forced the Stormfather to operate an Oathgate as if he were a common Blade. It was partly the spren’s fault, like when the Stormfather had refused to help Kaladin at Urithiru a few weeks ago, and Dalinar had been forced to step in.
They had their peaceful moments, but just as many disagreements. More, really. And often Dalinar could feel the Stormfather’s rage flooding through him, as if he were a chasm during a flash flood. Like today. When the Stormfather spoke, the force of it made Dalinar’s fingers tremble.
What are you doing? the Stormfather demanded, his voice like thunderheads crashing against one another. What are you contemplating?
“I am exploring every option I have,” Dalinar said, keeping his voice calm as he stood among the writhing plants. “Like any good general.”
I heard you discussing Honor’s power, the Stormfather thundered. Why, Dalinar? Must you think so highly of yourself? You’re ruining everything!
Dalinar braced himself against the force of the words. “Cultivation implied this was my next step,” Dalinar said. “And I agree. I fear that by myself, I can’t defeat Odium.”
A sudden gale washed over him: a completely impossible wind, considering he was in a small enclosed space. The wind seemed to blow away the room, turning it to Stormlight—the walls, plants, spare tables all weathering away like sand caught up in a tempest.
In a moment Dalinar was standing in an empty, open blue—hanging as if in the air far above the world. It was… it was a vision. Like the ones that had propelled him on this course in life. His body would still be in that room, perhaps collapsed upon the floor, while his mind saw what the Stormfather wanted.
An open sky, and a figure building before him in the shape of dark clouds extending in both directions to the horizon. A face manifesting in the natural shapes of the billowing clouds—features he knew as the Stormfather’s. Bearded, though the hair vanished into the mixing and churning clouds. Inhuman eyes glowing with crackling lightning. A daunting, oppressive sight for one who hovered—tiny—before it.
But Dalinar had been the imperious general staring down a subordinate. He knew these tricks.
“Is it possible for me to take up Honor?” Dalinar demanded.
No.
“Wit says otherwise.”
Wit is a liar.
“He has offered us more help than you have.”
He cares only for his own plans, Dalinar. Not for this land or its people.
Unfortunately, Wit had said as much to Dalinar in the past. So he considered, and he tried to modulate his tone.
“Why hasn’t the power of Honor taken another Vessel in all this time?” he finally asked.
I will not give you answers, Dalinar. The Stormfather’s voice grew softer, smaller. You were supposed to be better than this. You were supposed to be better than your brother.
“My brother?” Dalinar said, frowning.
He was arrogant. I knew it. I’ve watched both of you for a long time. Even at his worst though, Gavilar didn’t strive for godhood. Why, Dalinar? Why must you seek this?
“Because I’m overwhelmed, Stormfather,” Dalinar said, letting his exhaustion show. “Because I have to somehow save everyone, but I’m just one man, confused and outmatched. Because the only time I’ve ever felt like I had any hint of control was when I stood up before Odium and touched the Spiritual Realm.”
Unity, the Stormfather said.
“Yes.”
This is not for you to seek or decide. The power cannot go to one who wants it, Dalinar.
“You said it was impossible earlier,” Dalinar said.
Impossible the way you want it to happen.
“And Cultivation, who brought this plan to me in the first place?”
Traitor. She should know the implausibility of what she suggests.
“So which is it, Stormfather?” Dalinar demanded. “Is it impossible, or merely implausible? Is it wrong, or is it the only way to unite people, as I’ve been trying all along?”
It… This is not my plan.
“Your plan?” Dalinar pushed. “I thought this was Honor’s plan. You said he charged you to find people for the visions—so they could prepare for the coming dangers. You’re filling a role, just like me.”
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
“I only know what you’ve told me,” Dalinar said, feeling his anger mount. “I know that I’ve been stymied and cut off every time I’ve tried to make progress! I’ve had to fight you almost as much as I fight our enemy!”
Honor’s plan—
“Honor abandoned us!” Dalinar shouted. “We don’t even know why or how! All you’ll say is that he died, he faded away, he left visions and some plan for us to force Odium into a contest of champions. Vague, without real instructions.”
It’s working though.
“Is it?” Dalinar said, gesturing toward the continent far below. “You’ve seen what the enemy is doing.”
I… know now.
“They’ve outmaneuvered us already,” Dalinar said. “And they will do so again!” He heard thunder, and found he was growing. When he spoke, his own words were punctuated by rumblings. “The enemy has changed, Stormfather, but whoever they are, they’re a god—and can match whatever I try! You don’t think he can? What if he brings a Fused to fight me? An Unmade? A thunderclast? Some being from offworld with the power to tear down cities and lay waste to thousands?
“You think I can defeat that in some contest? I’m going to lose unless I find some kind of edge! All along, we were so focused on getting the agreement from him that we didn’t consider how to win! Is it any real surprise that I’m looking for a third option! So are you going to help me for once, or keep standing in my storming way?”
He cut off, a hundred more thoughts running through his head, each with an attached frustration. He stopped the tide, breathing heavily, and found that—strangely—he was now the same size as the Stormfather. That was an impossibility, since the Stormfather extended to infinity. But in this place, reality bent, and he could look the spren straight in the eyes.
What you want… is dangerous.
“It’s not what I want, Stormfather,” Dalinar said. “But it might be the only way.”
The Stormfather rumbled softly, and he glanced down, away from Dalinar. What of the Heralds? Perhaps the Heralds can help.
“I sent Szeth and Kaladin to try to retrieve one,” Dalinar said. “But what do you think? Can they solve this?”
Maybe. But… they are not reliable anymore, are they? Time has broken them… I’ve broken them. He looked back at Dalinar. I cannot say if the power would accept someone like you as a host, after what happened with Tanavast.
“And what happened with Tanavast?” Dalinar said.
It’s… worse than I told you, Dalinar.
“So you lied.”
Yes. Does that surprise you? Anger you?
Dalinar took a deep breath, and found that he was relieved to finally get an admission.
“Yes,” Dalinar said. “But I can move beyond that.”
The Stormfather rumbled, and the dark thunderheads calmed. I’m supposed to be better than lies, Dalinar. I should be constant. I am the winds. I do not lie.
“You are a person,” Dalinar said, “capable of growth. Capable of learning. If that is the case, then you are capable of mistakes.”
The Stormfather at last met his eyes again. I don’t know what would happen if you became Honor before the contest. I do not like even thinking about it. However, you might find answers that will… change your perspective. In the Spiritual Realm, as Cultivation said. You can take that step, and see the past, but do not seek the power of Honor.
Be warned. I will not be able to control what happens to you, or where you are taken. It is a process that is confusing to any who is not themself a Shard of Adonalsium. Even your Wit, for all his boasting and self-importance, can barely fathom the Spiritual Realm. Regardless, if you look into the Spiritual Realm… you will see. Perhaps you will see.
“See what, exactly?”
Our shame.
The vision vanished in the blink of an eye, and Dalinar found himself back in the tower. Standing up, remarkably, rather than having collapsed.
Wit was there. Sitting on a table with one leg up, next to a fern growing from the floor.
“Could you see that?” Dalinar asked him.
“I could hear it,” Wit said. “He’s both right and wrong. I do care about all of you, Dalinar.”
“But Odium remaining captive on our planet is more important to you than any of our lives.”
Wit nodded. “I’m sorry.”
“Do not apologize,” Dalinar said, stretching, exhaustionspren buzzing around him like insects. “I appreciate the honesty.”
“People think I detest honesty,” Wit said, “because they don’t often like to hear what I have to say, and so must assume I speak only lies.”
“They’d probably enjoy it more,” Dalinar said, “if you didn’t present both truth and lies in a way that belittles the listener.”
“Fair enough,” Wit said, hopping off the table. “I assume you’ve decided to go forward with this plan?”
“Yes,” Dalinar said, realizing it was true. “I want to start as soon as possible.”
“You’ll need a way to track time in there,” Wit said. “Even if we do this the smart way—which means sending your mind, but not your body—it would be easy for you to let months pass. That obviously won’t do. You have an appointment to keep, after all.”
“…Months?” Dalinar said.
“If not years. Decades. Time is entirely different in the Spiritual Realm. Storms, in some corner cases, you could vanish for what feels to you like a few hours—while decades of time pass out here. The visions so far were carefully curated and monitored by your spren, preventing you from being lost.”
“Is there a way for you to monitor for us?”
Wit fished in his pocket. He brought out a little clock, with two straps on the sides. The symbols on the face were unfamiliar to Dalinar. “Silverlight Mercantile,” Wit said to his questioning glance. “Adjustable to local time on different planets, if you swap out the face. Here, let me see that thing on your forearm.”
Dalinar held up his arm, where he still wore Navani’s fabrial bracer—it had a mechanism that kept the time and the date for him.
“All right,” Wit said, “this should work. You know how you do that thing where you teach yourself languages by bonding to a region? Do that, but with the clocks.”
“Could you be clearer? ‘Do that’ isn’t much to go on.”
“Take my clock’s soul,” Wit said, holding up his, “and Connect it by a thread of power to your own clock, grounding yours in the Physical Realm while you travel.” Wit looked at him. “Poke this with Stormlight, then poke that. Try it.”
Dalinar drew in Stormlight, then touched Wit’s clock, Infusing it with power. When he took his finger away, a line of light followed. He touched his clock, and something seemed to snap. The dial quivered for a moment, then continued as if nothing had happened.
“Excellent,” Wit said.
“So…”
“So the clock on your arm will show the same time that mine does,” Wit explained. “The date as well. Without this, your clock could adapt to your perception of time in the Spiritual Realm. Meaning it might feel and read like an hour has passed—but in reality you could return here and find all of us dead and gone. Well, everyone else. I tend to linger. Rather like a winter cough.”
“What about winter makes one cough?” Dalinar asked.
“Oh, right,” Wit said. “Roshar. No common cold. You have no idea how wonderful life is here, do you?”
“Are there places worse than the one being threatened with utter domination by a dark, destructive god?”
“You’d be surprised,” Wit said. “A few have political fundraisers.” He strapped on his clock. “We’ll try a quick test. So long as we keep you tethered, time shouldn’t pass too outrageously for you compared to us, and you should be able to send your mind into a vision, then return as you wish.”
“Should be able?”
“Should be able,” Wit admitted.
No quip. That was always a bad sign.
“You’ll need to open a perpendicularity,” Wit said, “step into it, then let the light take you. But not all of you. Push all the way through—but only with your mind, or you’ll end up in Shadesmar.”
Storms. That sounded difficult. And confusing.
But what else was he to do? “Let’s get Navani and Jasnah in here to monitor me, then we’ll give it a try.”
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WHAT!!! Such a good set of chapters. I can’t wait for the Ghostbloods vs Unseen Court face off. All the plot lines are really interesting, but that one is my favorite. Also, after last weeks chapters, and especially with all the discussion of her this week, I totally think Cultivations is being set up to step in as the true cosmere antagonist. She might not be a stormlight antagonist as much as odium, but her plan for Dalinar and Taravangian to ascend is super ominious. And Wit keeps saying how much he doesn’t like her, which is also suspicious. Dalinar will totally ascend and stop Todium, but it will end up being a loss because Cultivation will be revealed as the true puppetmaster with sinister intentions. Final thought, Jasnah would totally become a shard just so she could scroll through history and put together all the details of the past XD
I think Hoid doesn’t like her because they used to date (there are evidences for this but can’t remember were I saw them hahhaha)
Considering we know from TLM this faction of GB has been running amok they’re way more of an unknown quantity than the relatively chill ones on Scadrial proper..Im 99.9% sure we won’t be losing any main cast this book, but gaz and red are likely screwed.
Honestly even with their worldhopper knowledge and having breaths I doubt they could defend against a serious radiant attack. Raiding them with windrunners would absolutely be a good call, taking out their leadership, sure you don’t get answers, but screw it..risking everyone’s lives for your curiosity isn’t cool.
She’s going through the same thing Marasi did haha, with exact opposite reactions (though remember Iyatils brother did want to kill her)
Or hell, just plaster all the faces on posters everywhere and suddenly their secret organization isn’t so secret anymore.
Also..we know from Sunlit that Sig will leave with the dawnshard stuff pretty early on so I’m curious how that plot line will kick off.
Actually, we know the opposite about Sig. According to TSM, he had known Aux for “decades” before the Dawnshard killed him. I suspect he’ll lose his honorspren this book though.
I got a feeling Red is toast. I hope not, he’s grown into me. Gaz though. I would like to see Gaz some more. It would be hilarious, in a way, if Gaz ends up being some kind of mentor to one of the new protagonists. Oroden would too funny and Gaz wouldn’t know the irony in that until much later.
Mmm, I still think Red is a world hopper and we see him on Scadrial.
I had to double check. The one who gives Wayne a ride? Could this be the one who Brandon is talking about, the one Worldhopper no one has mentioned yet?
SAME!! Though I predict things are going to go askew for them.
(Not sure if the exerpts Sanderson has already released at events and such counts as spoilers, but if so spoiler alert!).
I distinctly remember in one of the interlude chapters Sanderson has already released of the Irali and the 17th Shard where Wit pranks/mocks them with a letter with his signature and a “crude” drawing of male anatomy. If this is still canon… then I take this “crude” to mean Wit CAN’T DRAW. Which begs the question: Where did these brilliant sketches of the Ghostbloods come from???
I do predict that Sigzel’s going to come in clutch in the nick of time, yet still somehow fails in some small or big way to knock his confidence.
Thoughts?
I mean, in context, I think crude can be interpreted to just mean base or tasteless. I don’t think crude means the drawing is bad.
Maybe he stores the sketches in a coppermind? But also idk, I can draw pretty well but sometimes you just doodle crudely, doesn’t mean much there. I’m stoked for that interlude too, finally catching up with galladon and demoux after a decade since WoK and finally answering the clues from Tress and TLM about the iriali, not to mention Cusicesh.
Cultivation is clearly playing their own game. Whose side she is on still TBD.
Noooo, we need one more chapter. I always knew Honor and The Stormfather were shady.
Okay Holy SHIT. In 5 books that was the first time the stormfather acted like Stormfaker in the prologue..has he just been playing the long game..? And is this why we keep getting the tidbits from sibling about how different he is..???
Idk if it’s just being fused with Tanavasts CS, but “you’re ruining everything”..? Wtf does that mean?
I was 100% subscribed to Stormfaker is Ishar theory for a year now since we got
that prologue preview..but now I’m really wondering wtf is going on with him
But yeah I mean, I’ve always had a high opinion of Honor compared to the other shards, a lot closer to preservation than any others, but the Lord ruler aligned with his intent and he couldn’t help acknowledge that. They aren’t benevolent.
It’s hard to say. I totally thought Ishar was hacking the Connection to talk to Gavilar, lot of details, appearing indoors, feeling with Shallan killed Chana, acting totally differently than he did with Dalinar. But this is very curious.
He isn’t being shady or malevolent though..just pissed Dalinar isn’t following through with the contest.
I really want to know what his “shame” is and how the SF “broke” the heralds like whats that about, it’s likely related to Jasnahs comment about the timelines not adding up about SFs sentence post Honor.
He might have been much more involved in the early days, especially as a proto -foece during the first desolation like Wind, Night and Stone.
What if the Stormfather is somehow Honor?? just reduced in power
I feel like the Stormfather is much more Tanavast than he lets on. I mean yeah, he isn’t a shard anymore, but it feels like Tanavast’s cognitive shadow merging with the Stormfather means that the Stormfather’s plan is Honor’s plan.
This would explain many things(Honor definitely witnessed humans coming to Roshar, definitely had a hand in the Recreance).
Except this also proves he wasn’t Stormfaker. He specfically says” Galivar didn’t strive to become a god” which we know is straight up wrong, heck stormfaker knew that too.
Not true. Gavilar wanted to become a Herald, not a god. So the Stormfather is correct.
not that much of a matter of distinction though. Galvar didn’t know about the Shards; thus he would think that being a Hearld is a god. he defintley had delusions of granduer.
William is right IMO–I think that’s exactly the distinction. By wanting to be a Herald, he would be dedicating himself to serve to protect Roshar by fighting the fused alone, without the other 9 heralds who are “dead.” There’s a different degree of selflessness to it. Dalinar wanting to become a God/Shard/Honor to defend Roshar primarily to defeat Odium is more a shortsighted goal which doesn’t give thought to the longterm. Dalinar continuing to struggle by NOT going the End Justifies the Means–like Taravangian did–is the path where Dalinar trusts in everyone whom he is connected regardless of time or duration. That sounds like he IDENTIFIES as honorable versus wanting to put the cart before the chull.
Something like that anyway. I’m so tired waiting up for the next chapter, so that was probably a bit of gibberish and I apologize.

Of course, how else could Honor be killed? He broke an agreement of some kind, which opens up the shard bearer to attack. That’s why he’s gone, but the shard isn’t splintered like what was done to the other dead shards.
If that is the case, it’s much more likely to be similar to Preservation breaking the deal with Ruin to imprison him, everything we’ve seen of honor and Tanavast he genuinely cares for humanity. maybe something to do with screwing the parsh over? Their shame, and breaking the heralds.
This is the first time I actually believe he was the same entity with gavilar and not Ishar, and might explain how he sensed Chanas death when he shouldn’t have been able to
I know this is probably a little out there and I haven’t dived into the secret works and newer series, mainly skyward. But I digress, I have thought this for a long long time. Since the very first time the SF explained to Dalinar how he was “tied all up with this” . Now this is probably way way way wrong but I’ve learned you should never be positive in your canon assuming cause he’s going to come from a completely different dimension with why or how. I digress again, but what if Honor somehow figured out how to let’s say assimilate himself and make a “son” that would seem like just a spren like every single other frustrating person on Roshar and assume the most ridiculous stuff sometimes which kinda makes me feel like they’re not human really at all anymore. But if Honor could somehow take the core of himself and recreate it on a blank canvas. Not one of the 16 who killed God, born a God not having been gained through thievery and murder. So Honor leaves this empty shell with only probably the last two months maybe 6months before his death and maybe would explain why he was ranting about the dawn shards and spouting off something that made tens of thousands of Radiants and their bonded Spren to ritualy destroy the entire unbroken chain from the times when humans escaped here from Ashyn. Like I know I’m going a little off the rails here but I’ve been speculating and theory that I’m barely wrapping my head around. But wouldn’t you all agree that the shard HONOR would more powerful if he was born as a God from the beginning. Cause how can you be honorable and represent Honor when you helped kill God and then stole his power. That’s all my fellow crustaceans, my fellow kremlings. I’m an audiobook listener for all but warbreaker the original mistborn trilogy and the rythmatist so don’t judge my spelling. After December I’ll be a shut in wreck until the second arc starts or at least some continuation of warbreamer and the rythmatist. My bottled up theories have been released. Praise be to Papa Sanderson
The fact that Roshar doesn’t have the cold virus seems ominous for future stories. Someone could weaponize that against them.
We saw it happen with the plague in the Purelake, galladon and demoux spread it when they were looking for Hoid. Just minor detail though.
Scadrial is the most earth -adjacent I could see them doing that. But I think it’s more that shardworlds the people are invested and more resistant? Especially nalthis and Scadrial where every human has some amount of the shards investiture innately with breath and a % of allomantic potential.
It could also be foreshadowing for Ashyn-based magic from The Silence Divine, as they use symbiotic relationships with bacteria/viruses to get powers from diseases.
It’s already been introduced – there’s a WOB that says the 17s members from the Ishyyk interlude (Galladon, Demoux, and Baon) introduced the Common Cold to Roshar.
Fortunately I believe in the same WOB he stated Rosharans are study stock, similar to Nalthians that have their original breath, so the cold didn’t become epidemic.
After googling, I found out that the Ashyn magic system, where the humans came from, uses diseases to give different powers. They deliberately have weak immune systems, so they can easily pick one up if needed.
Makes sense. Frequent highstorms will do that for ya.
Things are moving swiftly!
Could not help but notice that towards the end of their conversation, when Dalinar assumed a ‘shape’ as immense as the Stormfather, his last words were capitalized – might be a hint as to when someone/something crosses a threshold of awareness/power in terms of Investiture.
“Uncharacteristically subdued, he rested his head on his folded arms. “Navani, did the Sibling notice the visit of a god to their tower?”
Navani looked upward for a moment, then shook her head. “The Sibling says, however, that thier mother is… quiet. Sneaky.””
Fixed, thanks!
“She looked to Wit, who slumped, offended, as he met her eyes.” sounds a little awkward to me? idk maybe it’s just me.
Will Wind and Truth be released in a hardcopy CD format as all previous books have been? I can’t seem to find that format for pre-order anywhere.
Mink is such a genius the way he convinced Dalinar into sending troops to reclaim Herdaz also i love his interraction with Lift and the way Wit catched these two sneaking up damn these next parts are going to be so action packed and its still a contest waiting…Shinovar, now Herdaz, 3 battles, Ghostbloods, Spiritual Realm, Shadesmar warfare btw in a both chapters i think there was too much exposition going on, im not saying Brandon is speedwriting author (quantity over quality) but sometimes the pace feels a little bit forced for me, like lets get this done and go to another project
Did anyone notice when he was arguing with the Stormfather that Dalinar’s voice went all caps with the thunder. Maybe while in the spiritual realm he touches the past ans that’s the FakeStormfather we’ve seen before.
If Stormfaker isn’t our SF Ishar is still the most likely culprit, makes no sense for that to be Dalinar and Brandon won’t involve any timey wimey shenanigans.
Okayokayokayokayokay. Dalinar confronting Stormfather and then Stormfather cowering is probably one of my favorite things to come from the previews so far. That scene was sick as hell
Ooops, typo: their not thier, unless of course, Navani has suddenly developed a thick Southern accent.
Navani looked upward for a moment, then shook her head. “The Sibling says, however, that thier mother is… quiet. Sneaky.”
Was Honor, somehow, perhaps not so honorable?
I wonder.
Also, it seems to me Tanavast’s death was part of some long-term plan… one perhaps he participated in, willingly. I wonder if that plan was to bring back Tanavast (somehow, or designate someone else specifically) to reclaim the shard, once the threat by Odium was imprisoned/mitigated?
And the Stormfather’s reaction to Dalinar might be due to him seeing that plan being unraveled.
I have questions…
Yeah there was a theory for years that Cultivation helped him get killed as a long term plan, but yeah idk, with the info we have SF is mad he’s not sticking with the contest of champions plan and considering picking up the shard. He did push for Gavilar to be a herald if that was really him and not Ishar.. It’s weird.
All these little mentions by Sibling that he has a different personality, Jasnah commenting the timelines don’t add up.. Something is definitely up more than just being blended with Tanavasts CS..his shame, how he broke the heralds, something is definitely up.
If it wasn’t a stormfaker, then what some theorized was true, he changed his entire approach after Gavilar and instead lied and kept things close to the vest. Remember Gavilar being shocked he could lie vs Dalinar accepting it and moving on..
I think they might finally have him open up and form a true bond for the next oath vs this antagonist clashing constantly. That or instead of being made a Fused, Dalinar is forced to escape into the spiritual realm and disappears for the decade time skip leading into book 6 haha, that’s definitely a chekovs time dilation.
I think Dalinar is closer to ascending than he realizes. This chapter implies that Dalinar can ascend, but only if he doesn’t want it. That’s why he’s ruining the plan. I think Taravangian broke his oaths somehow, and he died because Honor rejected him, which is why Honor won’t take just anyone to be its bearer.
Also what are the other worlds that Hoid mentions. The one where the shattered shard was all around but they didn’t know it – Threnody? And the one where its power was locked into a closet – Ellantris?
The mists of Scadrial
Could he be referring to how on Scadrial the Mist turned out to be Preservation?
Yeah I reread it and I think he was talking about shards that died, not ones that were splintered. The mist was the first one, but it’s unclear to me who the second one was.
If by “the second one” you mean the one that was locked up in a closet in Shadesmar, that is definitely Dominion and Devotion on Elantris, forming the Dor.
I think the one locked up was Ruin on Scadrial. But I’m not familiar with what happens in Elantris.
It just occurred to me how romantic the Shinovar roadtrip would be if not for Szeth being 100% absolutely bonkers. Perfect enemies to lovers opportunity. (I’m joking)
If Brandon wasn’t Brandon, I wouldn’t be surprised if it went in that direction
I’m still somewhat mourning the great missed opportunity of thruple adolin/kaladin/Shallan.
Same, but not joking
I played it safe and wrote I’m joking just in case sb thinks I’m insane. Also I’m glad somebody agrees.
What if they free Ba-Ado-Mishram, convince her to help them against Odium and what if it’s BAM who takes Honor’s power? ;)
Interesting theory!! Isn’t BAM a spren, a part of a shard herself? Can a spren take up a shard!!!
Seems like if that were possible then Stormfather would already be ascended , himself.
I wonder how Cultivation’s touch on Lift will factor into the background of this final novel. Moreover, whether the Nightwatcher play any important role in this text, we shall see. Maybe Lift was also being prepared for a Shard or something similarly supernatural.
Hmmm ….I knew having the sibling awake and out of a crisis would give us some juicy lore but super crazy to have it confirmed they were wind/stone/night..but the wind is speaking to Kal, and it’s treated as an entity distinct from stormfather. Maybe like nightwatcher is a separate thing from the night disconnected from the Connection tied to it, SF and wind branched off from one another. Plus SF is also tied up with Honor and Tanavasts CS. Also lends credence to the long running theory about the unmade being created from these primordial forces, the 3 sentient ones + BAM being probably bondsmith tier.
But why do the timelines bother Jasnah? Surely a millenia doesn’t mean much to an ancient spren, and that distinction isn’t super significant, but he is calling attention to it. Really curious what that’s about.
It definitely feels like the old magic of wind, night, and stone will be a larger part in this book, possibly related to the King of Jah Keved’s death rattle: “So the night will reign, for the choice of honor is life”
Now that it’s confirmed Cultivation groomed tOdium and Dalinar to take up the shards i can’t wait to see how Lift feels about replacing her haha..might have to wait for her book first because I doubt Korrelium is going to give up the shard just yet
Incredible chapters. It’s interesting how big a role Wit is playing in this book. Usually he’s in the background, only taking part in a couple scenes, to help our heros do what they must, or to wax philosophical in an epilogue. But here he is playing a huge role in the events, providing exposition and helpful tools for our heros to use. The gloves are most certainly off.
The missing piece here for Dalinar is knowing it’s Taravangian, all the unease and uncertainty would be gone, hes a known quantity, powered up absolutely, but Dalinar knows him well like Hoid did Rayse and would have a much better grasp on the situation.
The fact that Cultivation intentionally left this a mystery instead of simply telling him absolutely means she prefers him to go in blind, which makes him much more likely to consider taking up Honor.
Also since everyone is pretty sure he won’t repeat Hero of Ages finale, really curious who will actually take up the shard, if at all.
We don’t know if tOdium is the villain of the back 5 or if it’s a reunited honor/odium War shard haha, but that is too similar to Harmony so not sure where he could go with it.
I’m convinced myself that Szeth will be the one who takes up the Shard of Honor. He’s certainly the one who wouldn’t want to do anything about it. Nale hinted that, in order to reach the Fifth Ideal, he needs to be justice itself, which somehow fits the role. You can probably say Szeth is honorable too, in the way he will stay true to his word no matter what. So if he does pick up the Shard, we know he will embody Honor down to the T. This is, Szeth’s book after all. I think we keep forgetting that. (Though if we do, I think Brandon’s to blame for how he handled Venli/Eshonai in RoW.
Also, if his spren is Aux, then it’s probably a potential reason why Aux leaves and bonds with Sig. That makes me worried for Sig’s original spren though.
Yeah, Cultivation not telling Dalinar about Taravangian means she’s still playing some sort of manipulation game. I don’t think we know what her real game is, still.
I absolutely LOVE how Brandon can have Kal describe a simple Earth-like forest in such a majestic and magical way from the perception of a rosharan, that’s just so goddamn cool and I love that he spent time on that detail, it isn’t just worldbuilding since it’s the origin point of the humans coming from Ashyn, but still.
It’s also kind of symbolic of how the shin perceive peace and violence, even their plants reflect that
We got a taste of this when Rysn was there back in WoK but I’m loving that. Can’t wait til we get into their society, possible info about the Shin invasions, shamans, other honorblades, cache of shards, Ishar, so much info.
YES! FINALLY. Hahah the sample chapters of Szeths flashbacks from a year ago had me so goddamn curious. We only got those first 3 and I wanted more so badly..looking forward to more of the rock and the sheep. but also holy crap! We always assumed when he said he’d heard voices like Nightblood as a youth it meant he began a spren bond leading to being truthless but a bloody unmade..?
And wait, if he knew it was an unmade why did he believe he was actually truthless all those years? I guess he never poked at it too much logically until the fight with Kal? Hmm..well shit it must be the black fisher right? Only one unaccounted for.
Typo? “Two more people arrived, including a shorter uniformed Alethi man she recognized from Hoid’s sketches.” Does Shallan know Hoid’s name? I thought she knew him as “Wit”? Or maybe I missed something?
He introduced himself to her as Hoid at the carnival in her flashbacks.
I’m actually convinced now more than ever that Dalinar is going to win the contest. But maybe he won’t take up the Shard, after all. He’ll win without using the Shard. Then Taravangian would lose his cool and totally break the contract. This way, the arc ends, opening just enough plotlines for the next backend, while tackling whatever remaining issues from these first five. I’m more concerned if Dalinar would end up taking the Shard of Odium. Once Taravangian is out, Dalinar might get the sense that leaving this Shard out in the open like this is going to be dangerous.
I’m actually interested in all the hype they built up about the possibility of reclaiming Kholinar. I feel like something good is going to happen on each of the main battlefronts, and then they end up having just enough time to lay a siege on Kholinar. Though, I’d be more interested in the time skip to see what Jasnah does to the Shattered Plains.
I don’t know if this has been mentioned before but, I guess if Shallan becomes successful in taking out Mraize and Iyatil, it won’t piss Kelsier off too much. It’s been hinted there’s some kind of divide within the Ghostbloods and I recall they don’t strike on their own. If anything, being capable of taking out Iyatil and Mraize might convince Kelsier to invite Shallan as a full member of the Ghostbloods. If she accepts, then there’s that reason to miss her in the next five books. I doubt she would accept though.
I’m very concerned with what happens with Sig and his spren. There’s that theory too about Szeth’s spren, which makes me very worried what happens to Kal and Szeth in Shinovar. I keep forgetting that Wind and Truth is supposed to be Szeth’s book. So, I’m just playing right now, but what if it’s Szeth who actually ends up with the Shard of Honor? He is someone who follows the word down to the T. He would never want to seize this Shard but he just might forced to do so.
I didn’t realize WIt was also the Doctor. That makes so much sense now.
LOL!!!
Kinda surprised nobody has suggested destroying the Azimir Oathgate. It’s gonna be inutilized anyway. Having a handful of Stonewards demolish it or stab the Oathgate spren with anti-Stormlight should do the trick and trap all those Fused on Shadesmar. Problem solved. One out of three battles won without a single casualty.
Of course, destroying an Oathgate might not be so easy, but it could’ve been brought up.
Good point, I think there are too many do-gooders in the council for them to actually do it, and it would probably make all the Spren angry, but it should have been brought up at least. Maybe Adolin’s group is gonna go rogue and do this as a last ditch effort and Brandon just wants it to be a surprise…
So what was the point of honorspren mision? Just to start killing sprens again after they become allies? How would the Sibiling react? You know they would lose Urithiru
The point of the Honorspren mission was to recruit Honorspren. I don’t think that means the Radiants have to let the oathgate spren betray them. Sure, killing them should be a last resort, but if they’re working with the enemy, then they’re enemy combatants and can be treated as such.
Okay Holy SHIT. In 5 books that was the first time the stormfather acted like Stormfaker in the prologue..has he just been playing the long game..? And is this why we keep getting the tidbits from sibling about how different he is..???
Idk if it’s just being fused with Tanavasts CS, but “you’re ruining everything”..? Wtf does that mean?
I was 100% subscribed to Stormfaker is Ishar theory for a year now since we got that prologue preview..but now I’m really wondering wtf is going on with him. It didn’t seem ominous though, just honest. Since gav was trying to be a herald and screw over humanity he had intentionally stayed super withdrawn with Dalinar.
Wtf does he mean about our shame though? Breaking the heralds himself? He isn’t just basically honors spren he seems more like an active participant..
Also all this talk of the spiritual realm, definitely means basically for BAM it could totally feel like she’s only been locked up a short amount of time when she’s released haha. Definitely will overlap with shallan.
No one’s talking about the little Mythological tidbits we get from the Sibling here! Night, Stones, and Wind, elder spirits of Roshar of some sort? Perhaps a Creation myth is due to be told!
My personal theories: Shallan’s walking into a trap, the other Lightweavers are dead. They’re getting to much characterization all of a sudden, they’re doomed.
This is a WILD shot; I think Szeth is going to become Honor. This is his book after all. Plus the SF says it won’t come to one who wants it, and Szeth doesn’t want anything. How that will GO depends a lot on Kaladin, unfortunately!
I had this same crackpot theory of it being Szeth. Wouldn’t becoming a Shard heal his insanity, too? And talk about someone who literally is the epitome of “I follow my oath regardless of the outcome”. If I was Honor’s power, that’s who would be the most appealing to become my Vessel. I think Szeth dies and Kaladin ascends or vice versa. Dalinar ascending is just a red herring. I kind of want him to become Odium’s champion for his Cosmere conquest. It does feel like Conquest is what the Rosharans in Isles of Emberdark preview chapters embody, so I’m wondering if Odium and Honor and/or Cultivation merge somehow. too many crackpot theories for this book haha.
Sanderson has stated that neurosis don’t magically go away and will affect shard’s intent.
Szeth is bonded to a spren and hasn’t healed his insanity. Why will binding to a Shard heal it? Didn’t Tanavast supposedly go insane in his last days even though he was the vessel?
‘. Not all beneath your judging gaze are in need of your protection’
These words are accepted
Just saying ;)
I know nobody asked, and this sounds like quite the reach, but I’m gonna take a shot in the dark and say that Sig dies halfway through this book, and Wit revives him with the dawnshard. It might throw any TSM readers for a loop initially, and would create confusion and tension for the audience. Would also give Sig an interesting survivor’s guilt thing if his whole squad got wiped out and make him similar to Kaladin. Afterall, “Sigzil did his best to pretend he was Kaladin.” I know this all sounds insane and like a reach but I can’t shake the feeling it will happen.
Gosh, I would love for Jasnah to ascend in the end and get to talk with Harmony…
I could imagine Dalinar taking up Honor’s power this book, but maybe Jasnah could “unite” Honor and Odium later in the series (Book 10?).
Also though, Dalinar seems to straighforward of a choice to take Honor’s power and be the champion. I guess we will see…
CRACKPOT THEORY ABOUT THE COVER ART W/ THIS CHAPTER
In the cover art we see that Dalinar’s hair is very grey (even with the golden sunset), though the books say he has black hair. On the Michael Whelan blog detailing that the cover was done it was hinted in the comments that this color of his hair was intentional art direction by Isaac Stewart. Given this chapter says time can be wonky in the Spiritual Realm and Dalinar says he doesn’t feel ready, what if he gets trapped in the Spiritual Realm for longer than just 8 days? Maybe decades? And he finds his way back to fight Odium right before his death??
I personally believe Dalinar will win the contest in a very simple but epic way. Your theory seems to fall in line with what I think. He’ll be wiser by then.
I do think Dalinar might end up taking the Shard of Odium though. I think Taravangian will lose his cool, break contact, allow another god — maybe Cultivation — to kill Taravangian. And Dalinar would embrace himself as the Blackthorn in god mode, because A) The Shard is too dangerous to be left alone. Or B) It’s a preparation for the upcoming war with the rest of the gods. Then again, maybe he could keep the Shard hidden in the Spiritual Realm, and then take it up later before Book 10.
Is anyone else surprised by the lack of flashback chapters? Does that mean that they’ll all come at once? or in close succession?
well, in way of kings and words of radiance, there was only one flashback in the first part, before they’re more expanded upon in the second. and in rhythm of war, the flashbacks didn’t happen until the second act. the way it was set up, it did look like we should be getting it soon, if not the next szeth chapter.
I think there is another reason why Kalidan won’t ascend. In the sunlit man Sizgle mistakes Hoid for Kalidan this implies in a way that alidan is definitely still alive and that Kalidan didn’t ascend. Also before Sizgle leaves Roshar he has time to break his bond with his honor spree and bond with a different spree becoming a skybreaker of likely at least the 2nd outh. How would Sizgle have time to do all this in 8 days?
Here’s my theory – Tanavast didn’t die, he gave up Honour (the shard) and became Nohadon, the inspiration of Dalinar’s philosophy.
This explains the “shame” that the Stormfather talked about, why noone remembers Honour’s death, and if the radiants found out that their patron just gave up, it explains why they were willing to go through with the recreance.
We know from sunlit man that if you can get rid of some of your investiture you can get around the intent of a dawnshard, so why not a shard? We know the Stormfather is invested with some of Honour’s power, and we know that the investiture of the shard is separate from investiture of the vessel (nightblood eating Rayse but not Odium), so could Tanavast have given the Stormfather this power pre-“death” rather than what readers assume, that after Honour died a chunk latched onto the Stormfather?
I think Honour recognised that he was going mad after so long with the shard, found a way to give it up and travelled the world as a mortal man to get back in touch with his roots. Along the way he became the king of Alethela (therefore making every Alethian a “son of Tanavast/ son of honour” in the same way all of Europe can say they’re related to Charlemagne). The way of kings is more an allegory than a literal story, written by an old Tanavast to explain his reason for abandoning Shardhood, and that’s why the epithets are giving us more from WoK. Can’t remember if it’s WoK or WoR, but at some point it’s said that Nohadon was his king name, but noone knows what his birth name is.
Only thing I can think of that goes against this is the Nohadon vision from WoK that suggests Nohadon lived before the founding of the radiants, but if Honour made these visions, he could have played around with the timeline, and we know Uritheru is the base of the radiants by the time WoK is being written
So, Nohadon lived at least 3 millenia before the Recreance and Radiant Orders were founded during his life-time. Tanavast was around immediately prior to the Recreance as the Vessel of Honor and talked to the Radiants. The time-line doesn’t fit at all.
But there might be parallels between Nohadon’s and Tanavast’s actions… Except that prior quotes from in-world WoK suggest that the former took up his kingship again after completing his trek.
I like this theory. Just like Cultivation can walk among people, maybe Honor could too, with or without giving up the shard. Hougen Apperson in the read along also has a similar theory, about Tanavast being Nohadon
Of course, Honor and Nohadon appeared different to Dalinar in the visions, but it could be because Honor wanted it that way.
Cool theory! As said above, the timelines don’t add up, but could Nohadon be an avatar of Honor, in some parallel to how Autonomy does avatars and was prepping Wax’s sister?
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Not sure what that caret is doing halfway through the paragraph, but it probably shouldn’t be there.
Updated, thanks!
Wow, those Scadrains sure are being weirdly public with their method of investigating people coming in, including using two methods that can be circumvented if you know what you are doing.
Sure is a good thing that Scadrians don’t have another way to detect the use of investiture that the group doesn’t know about and isn’t public…
it’s probably bait. Shallan did delcare war on them, and they know she would be watching.
Odd that Hoid didn’t explain Metallic Arts and what they could do to Shallan. If the Ghostbloods had a Tin Metalborn, either natural or hemalurgic, standing watch, as they should have, then all this chatting the Lightweavers did in the view of the meeting place is going to come back to bite them. And, of course, Seekers should have been able to pinpoint them easily. Not to mention that the same person could have both powers via hemalurgy.
OTOH, nobody bothered with such obvious precautions in TLM, so who knows?
For all our theorizing..who else can’t WAIT to finally see El appear? Spent years since RoW wondering wtf he’s all about as this metal covered true believer without rythyms, I’m assuming he’ll be in one of these 3 armies.
“She chose to wear a blue havah embroidered with the Bridge Four symbol on the shoulder, one of the new uniforms Kaladin had authorized.”
Wait, weren’t the uniform always blue, what is the different?
The new unifoms are in the styles of different countries, not just Alethi uniforms.
Why do I have to log in again every few days? Don’t I post often enough on this buggy site to remain logged in?
I think the new part is it being a havah
-Dalinar “Now is not the time to abolish slavery” Kholin
Just a little theory I had going- cant tell whether this book is pushing this more into realistic or unrealistic so far….
Maybe Ishar is Tanavast? (He claims he is a god) The “splintering” was Tanavast pushing the power into the spiritual realm and becoming the herald/heralds to hold together the oathpact and seal Odium away.
As each individual herald has aged they have almost become like splintered personalities a bit like the shards of adonalisiam are.
He wanted Gavilar to ascend and take ishars place- along with new heralds of his choosing- so that Tanavast could reform and become Honor again?
Check out Chapter 59 of Words of Radiance – this story told by Kaladin through Wit is major foreshadowing that Kaladin is the one Ascending to the Shard of Honor. Wit and Kaladin both agree that this story is about Kaladin, and things yet to take place. There are references to the other challenges Kaladin faced in books 2, 3 & 4 in this story, and the last part references a “final challenge” in Shinovar, where Kaladin is now. I recommend reading this chapter again in full, the first chapter in Part 4 of Words of Radiance (Chapter 59 – “Fleet”).
“So in that land of dirt and soil, our hero stopped the storm itself. And while the rain came down like tears, our Fleet refused to end this race. His body dead, but not his will, within those winds his soul did rise (italicized).”
“It flew upon the day’s last song, to win the race and claim the dawn. Past the sea and past the waves, our Fleet no longer lost his breath. Forever strong, forever fast, forever free to race the wind.”
What are your thoughts? Do you think this is foreshadowing Kaladin Ascending to the Shard of Honor, or is it pointing to something else?
Seems like hes becoming the wind
Um, YES. Amazing theory!!!!
In some massive climatic revelation once we understand the Unmade, Shinovar and the shame of both SF & Heralds, I’m starting to think Szeth is a candidate to ascend to Honor, but in a tragic way Dalinar will have to take that Connection from him, which will in a way satisfy the requirement he SEEK to become Honor’s Vessel.
I think the key to this book more and more is what you think cultivations intent is, because what she wants to happen usually does.
Also, I think there are way more scadrians on roshar then we thought.
Right! I was wondering if this is the opening salvo to the war for the Cosmere.
wheres the new chapters?
Right here.
Wow, that’s a lot, haha.
While I don’t know I that ‘the greatest good for the greatest people’ is ALWAYS the way to figure out what is right (I can appreciate Dalinar wanting to keep to his agreements) I totally share some of her consternation here about somebody becoming a god and I think it’s right in line with her character given that she also doesn’t approve of kings. ;) And of course the pondering of…what does it mean to be a god, does that take a free will, is it inherently controlling (which does seem to require the presence of suffering), or even worse…what if there IS a god but they are not friendly!
I’m a bit late to the discussion, but isn’t there a timeline mistake with the sentence “the Stormfather had refused to help Kaladin at Urithiru a few weeks ago”? Wasn’t that when he jumped into the storm after his father, after he fought the Pursuer? That was only a few days ago, surely.
So is the black sand a throwback to the white sand books and the earrings comment to Vins earring?